The Apostle Paul had set certain guidelines for a believer's conduct in the church.
1 Cor 14:33- For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Paul says there must be order in ALL THE CHURCHES OF THE SAINTS AND NOT IN SOME CHURCHES ONLY! SPEAKING OF ORDER, THERE WAS LAUGHTER EVEN WHEN THE WORD OF GOD WAS BEING PREACHED!!!!! HOW CAN THE HOLY SPIRIT LAUGH AT THE WORD OF GOD? One does not have to be a genius to know that a person cannot laugh and hear the Word of God at the same time!
God's people are mocking at His WORD and even the communion service is not spared!!!
"One of Rodney Hopiano coversd Browne's initiates, an Episcopal priest, likes to tell the story of how, after being "blessed" he went home to his Episcopal church and burst out laughing at the most solemn moment of the service, the consecration of the Eucharistic elements" Book entitled "Weighed and Found Wanting" by Pastor Bill Randles, page 25.
Now what about the ministry of our Lord Jesus. He had the Spirit without measure (John 3:34), yet no one laughed during the three and a half years of His ministry! Neither was there any laughter, when Apostle Paul or Apostle Peter ministered in the Book of Acts. Should we emulate Our Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul or Rodney Hopiano coversd-Browne?
" They had used the Holy Spirit to play a joke on the people, and the people had joined in on the frivolity.........Being frivolous with each other is one thing. Frivolity with God is another. In the Old Testament, such behavior as I had just witnessed would have resulted in immediate death......"
From article entitled "The Toronto Revival" by Ron Owens, page 2.
A family recently I visited had a ____________. I was [ He describes his ongoing work in the home. ] I could hear this thing and I heard a father in holy laughter and speaking out against his daughter saying she that she had three demons in her! And that she needed to pray in toungues now to release those demons. She ran out of the house. She was about 16. I ran after her, and she opened up to me on how hard it has been for her. She is forced to go to one of these churches. She told me that they forced her to pray in tongues and she was so afraid of her dad and only wanted things to be the same again, before he started going that " wacko " place as she called it. This poor beautiful girl had sliced her knee on purpose during the summer and branded her boy friends name on her thigh.
I held her and wept. I
have found that the children really suffer terribly with this false doctrine.
And they are put in a place of severe rejection when they don't respond to it.
"Yet what I witnessed during my visit to the Vineyard was absolute bedlam. (Indeed, this has been true *every* time I had visited an evening service at the Vineyard. ) Several people were "pogoing in the spirit" (jumping up and down); three women were lying on the floor (rather indelicately) going through imaginary birth pangs, while a male minister stood over them, shouting "Birth it! Birth it!"; four teenage girls lay tangled together on the floor, experiencing some sort of shared convulsions; an overweight and unkempt man ran around the perimeter of the floor, waving his arms and flinging sweat; a young woman, seemingly oblivious to all around her, went through some crude ballet-like motions; various people wept, laughed, barked like dogs, and roared like wild animals."
".......Brazil Hopiano coversd-Browne came to our former church for three weeks. His brother, Rodney, ministered for about six weeks before that at another local church. The wildest reports that we have received, however, were during the Mardi Gras in New Orleans this year. Rodney held a revival at a friend's church there. You must first understand that the Mardi Gras is as wild of a pagan orgy that you are likely to see anywhere. People will get drunk and run naked in the streets, having sex of all sorts, even with animals. Our Christian friends who were there all tell us that it was wilder inside the church with Rodney than outside.....Women would come up to give their testimonies about the joy of being "out under the power" and having wild orgasms..."
"Even the 100+ pastors and church leaders who were invited by RHB on the night of 18th to receive the "fire" by his laying of hands (more like waving), fell on backs except for a handful . Some of them were jerking and writhing on the floor. He even quipped that this was one of the greatest "laying" of hands service ever (RHB repeated the same on the night of 21st on a grander scale) and joked about a woman who fell on her back that she would survive and on another pastor who was rolling on his back with legs kicking in the air that the holy spirit was upon him! I also saw on the same night, a man acted out vigorously his gonfu stances before he fell backpiano coversd on the floor while many more were jerking, screaming aloud and making animals-like noises. I saw no edification at all as a result of these manifestations. To borrow a remark from a sister-in-Christ who had witnessed similar manifestations in the US services: `this "anointing" is scandalous, blasphemous, and seductive. Carnal at the roots, it makes a mockery of our precious Saviour who died a serious and sober death on the cross to obtain for us the unending mercy of God through His grace. The humble, righteous and Holy character of God is openly ridiculed in these meetings, and a spirit no less than demonic is purporting to call itself the "Holy Spirit"'. Another local pastor who was at one of the day's services but didn't participate in the "anointing" shared that he was: `closed to tears to see so many pastors and church leaders being deceived and manipulated'....."
LOO KEE ----------------
My name is Bob Lally and I live in upstate New York in the US. I have been in communication with George Koch in Chicago concerning the so called "Laughter Movement." First, please add me to a mailing list of updates on laughter. Second, George mentioned that you believe it is completely demonic. I have already formed my views, based on this movement's direct one for one relationship with AN EASTERN RELIGION. I believe it is completely demonic and is Satan's last effort to fool the elect. God bless you and your ministry.
I watched a admittedly rather badly made film about it- more of a film of a meeting about the Toronto blessing. I've never felt so creeped before- it was utterly demonic- frankly, I wouldn't touch the stuff at all. --
"I am twenty-six years old, have been saved since I was fourteen and am a fourth generation Pentecostal. I must say that I am very saddened by the general lack of discernment that I see in the Christian church today. I have seen this movement creep into many previous sound churches and cause nothing but confusion. I must also say that I am surprised at how many believers (many of whom are friends of mine), who were brought up in the truth, have been seemingly locked into the Vineyard teaching. I have tried to witness to them but they just seem so unreachable, even more unreachable than those who have never known the truth."
"My first exposure to this movement was about a year ago when I was flipping the TV channels around and landed on TBN where all these people were laughing hysterically. I watched it and I too noticed that God's Word was hardly spoken while all these people were emitting these peculiar sounds and doing the strangest things."
"One minister stands behind a couple who have asked for prayer for infertility. He holds his hands above their heads, palms
down, and begins pumping vigorously up and down, as if he is pushing something into them....Another minister stands in front of a man seeking prayer. As he prays, his left hand rests on the man as his right hand scoops the air in a sideways motion, palm topiano coversd the man being prayed for, as if he is pulling SOMETHING OUT OF THE AIR AND SCOOPING IT INTO THE MAN'S BODY....Members of the congregation, both standing and lying on the floor, SCOOP their own hands topiano coversd themselves pleading, `MORE! GIVE
Holy Laughter Part II- "The Force"-or pumped, scooped, charged and slain by George B Koch, SCP Newsletter, Spring 1995. Emphasis Mine.
"I am a pastor in Bartlett, Illinois (suburb of Chicago). I recently signed on to the Internet and have gotten your remarks concerning the "Toronto Blessing" over the last two weeks. I couldn't agree with you more! I am very concerned over the sad state of the Evangelical Church in our day and the lack of discernment prevelent. A theology of experience, a man-centered theology has replaced a theology based on God's word. The principle of sola scriptura is being lost as Christians are being lured away from the Word of God as their sole authority by a host of satanic diversions. Keep up the good work! Hold forth the Word!"
I thought that you might be interested to know that this morning we were visiting a nearby Foursquare Gospel Church, and just before the sermon, the pastor gave a report on the annual convention of the Foursquare Church that ended last night in Calgary. He said that it was a great time of fellowship, and that the presence of God was clearly felt, and that an orderly move of the spirit could be seen affecting people throughout the room. But as that began, he said a disruptive manifestation began in one corner, with laughing, shaking, and other disruptive manifestations. He went on to say that the stronger the move of God got, the more disruptive these other manifestations became. The chairman of the session spoke against the laughter and the disruptive manifestations, and commanded them to stop in the name of Jesus. They instantly stopped, and one man fell back against a wall......it stopped so abruptly. The pastor said that the incredible thing was the display of how mighty God's power was against these demonic manifestations, and that they didn't need the ushers to deal with it. They didn't need a "laughter room", a "shaking room" or "demon room"; all they needed was to command the demonic disruptions to cease in Jesus' name, and the spirits that were manifesting had to stop. He summarized by saying that anytime the Spirit of God manifests itself, or the Spirit of God is moving, we can expect Satan to try to disrupt the proceedings.
Regards, Tom S-----------
By: Joseph A. Nigro
[ Disclaimer by Editor, Balaam's Ass Speaks: This ministry is quite useful for information, and I think they can be believed in every detail, but they are participants in Charismatic circles and do not stay exclusively with the King James Version. Joseph Nigro's experiences in the Holy Laughter movement are very helpful. ]
1 John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are from God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
I had heard a lot about the new movement that is sweeping Christianity, the "holy laughter revival." I read some articles about it, both pro and con, and I discussed it with people who had experienced it. However, I could not make a verdict about it without having an encounter with the movement. I chose to go to a revival with the originator of the movement, Rodney Hopiano coversd Browne, who likes to call himself "The Holy Ghost Bartender." What I experienced was Biblical, but not in the way that most people would want to hear.
First, let me preface this with the fact that there are brothers and sisters in Christ whom I love dearly that are in this movement. I hold these dear brothers and sisters in the highest regard, and this article is not against them personally, but rather a examination of the holy laughter movement in light of the Bible.
Jeremiah 51:37-40 "And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant. 38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lions' whelps. 39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD. 40 I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats."
I had gone to the meeting with some anticipation that God had possibly started a new movement bringing a new found joy to the churches.
I was prepared for the blessing, but I also was prepared for the possibility of a counterfeit teaching. I walked into a very large packed church that was jamming with music. The music was incredibly good, and quite a few people were dancing. I noticed a good feeling inside. After a few more songs, some people broke into a hysterical laugh. As the meeting kept on going, people all over the church were laughing, some for hours on end.
Members of the choir were actually rolling on the floor laughing. People were rolling around or just lying on the ground either crying or laughing. Literally several hundred people would just be laughing at the same time, some for 5 minutes, some for up to 3 hours! Some women danced sensually around the church while one man massaged the wall with the front of his body!
What was amazing was that the speaker didn't really say too much except that he had the new wine of the Holy Spirit to share with others so that they could get drunk with him. That's about all Rodney said over and over, in various ways, in song mostly, but the same message. Rodney criticized those who did not agree with his message, saying that if you don't believe the laughter is from God, you are a mausoleum! And yet I had this piano coversm, feel good spirit inside of me...this must have been of God.
Before I ever stepped into the meeting, I was prayed up with my wife, Andrea, to discern anything not of God. The crying and laughing and shaking were so ultra hysterical that I immediately thought that this was of the flesh, yet I still had a good feeling inside. So as the meeting progressed, I prayed for God to show me...why the good feeling? What God revealed to me was one of enormous dimensions.
I Timothy 4:1 tells us, "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." It hit me so hard that I almost fell over, the good feeling was a seducing spirit...a literal spirit of a good feeling from a demon!
My spirit liked the feeling, but that's because my spirit was being seduced (captivated, delighted, enticed), and it felt almost sensual. That explained all the laughter and sensual dancing, and crying, along with barking and roaring! This holy laughter revival is a movement of demons coming as angels of light to seduce Christians in these end times.
"Although God is interested in our bodies as well as our souls, His sphere of involvement with a Christian is primarily "in the spirit." God is a Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in Spirit and in truth. On the other hand, demons interact with people in the flesh - that is, in the physical body, and in the mental realm (emotions, desires, feelings).
They give bodily sensations (shivers, shakes, heat, tingles, weakness, energy, etc.) and mental feelings (overwhelming burdens, or intoxicating sensations of joy, revelations, strong desires, impulses to do irrational things, etc.). The majority of people who experience "holy laughter" say the result is a feeling of intense love. Because they are Christians, their love is directed at Jesus. However, this does not prove that the feelings of love are sent from God." (1)
Rodney sang the same song for almost an hour, but when He came to the altar call, he adamantly and repeatedly commanded, "hurry, hurry." Yet a message was never given at all, so what were these people responding to?
Some of the "backsliders" who responded were laughing and dancing just a few minutes earlier, yet they now waltzed down an aisle to respond to an alter call. When the "sinners" came up to the altar, they were NEVER told to repent of their sins. They were just told that they were a child of the King. When God's Holy Spirit comes in power, He calls sinners to repentance. He convicts of sin, He reminds of judgment, and He gives assurance of righteousness only to be found in the Savior, the Lord Jesus. (John 16:8)
Unless you're willing to come to God as a sinner, asking for God's forgiveness, you don't have a relationship with Him. So what type of alter call was being issued? There was never a real serious moment, because as the alter call was given, people were laughing hysterically. As they prayed the prayer, and sang worship songs, people were laughing uncontrollably. Later, when a video was shown of Rodney pretending he was drunk in the Spirit, the place went wild.
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." (Hosea 4:6)
I really can't tell you where the Word of God was in all of this because it sure wasn't in the meeting. When you go to a church, or a revival, or a teaching, there is NOTHING that i s more important than the teaching of the Word of God. Yes, I give high priority to musical worship, but God tells us that its the opening and teaching of His Word that He blesses.
The Scriptures tell us in blips 4:12, "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerned of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
God's word shares the very attributes of God Himself. It is living and full of activity and power. God Himself is telling us that He is active and so is His judgment. He tells us that His Word is a sharp sword that goes into man's most inner being and judges the thoughts and intentions of the heart. But whenever the word was "attempted" to be preached, the people would laugh even harder.
This quote is from a meeting led by Rodney Hopiano coversd-Browne: "One night I was preaching on hell, and laughter just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed." (Charisma, August 1994)
Of course there is no preaching of God's Word, because demons are mockers of God's Word, and they don't want to hear it!
Answer me these questions Church: "How can you laugh frivolously when you know that millions of people are dying and going to hell?"
"How can you laugh when over 4000 babies are being aborted in American daily?"
"How can you laugh when thoBlipnds of children are dying daily because of starvation?" The only way you can laugh frivolously is when you are seduced by a demonic spirit! I'm not against joy or laughter. But the joy of knowing Christ, the joy of salvation, and seeing others come to a saving knowledge of God is truly a joy inexpressible. Yet, I also identify with the Man of
Sorrows, Jesus, because I hurt for those who are dying from starvation, or are being massacred in a piano covers. I weep for those who are going to hell, and march against babies being aborted.
Most Scripture references to laughter are nearly all adverse, and has to do with mocking and derision. There is no biblical "gift" of a spirit of laughter. Christian joy is an inpiano coversd peace and assurance, not an hysterical outburst of laughter. The Bible tells us that the fruit of the Spirit is "self-control" and commands:
1 Corinthians 14:40 "Let all things be done decently and in order."
I ask and exhort my brothers and sisters in Christ to truly test the spirits. Learn to distinguish the difference between the presence of the Holy Spirit, as opposed to the presence of seducing spirits. Choose to build your life on the Word of God and not on an experience or good feeling.
Once Jesus ALONE becomes our foundation, we don't need a "experience" to draw closer to Him. Spend quality time in the Word of God and let His Word cleanse you. May God open your eyes to His Spirit, His Love, and His Peace as you seek Him with all your heart, and you find your Joy in Him alone.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when men will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teacher, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
 The Toronto Phenomenon/Laughing in the Spirit: Is it of God? How can Christians Decide? - Tricia Tillin - Banner Ministries. Special Thanks and blessings to Banner Ministries of UK for the research that they provided.
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