In spite of burnings, translation corruptions, and Vatican threats, THE BIBLE STANDS.
This page is here for the encouragement of those who have come along the path from Bible confusion to the Narrow Way of One Bible-- The King James Bible 1611. If you are part way along the journey, this page can be a real encouragement. You won't be all alone with a bunch of wierdos if you take a stand for the KJV.
From: Darin -------------
MY testimony : I grew up attending a Southern Baptist Church where they will carry any new bible that comes along, I never thought much of it although I still carried a KJV. I now attend and just joined an independant Babtist church where the KJV is preached from without compromise. I also read some of Gail Riplingers books which as you know are pro KJV. Thank the LORD for reveling his true word. Now I tell anyone I can about the watered down versions ( family included) . Their response sometimes is " the KJV is a translation itself and men wrote it so it can have mistakes". I respond by saying , don't you think that GOD who BTW created this world in six days has the power to inspire men to write his word perfectly? Amen
From: "Tom" -------------------------
Subject: Off the Deep End With Ankerberg!!!!
I have a very interesting link for you to check out. Has John Ankerberg gone off the deep end? See for yourself !!!
I can't believe he actually put this on his website! http://www.ankerberg.com/ModernVer.html I cannot believe that he does NOT recognize the devil's fingerprints in the other versions.
Are these so called "experts" so BLIND?....as not to see the devil is out to distort the Word of God???? Do they not know the enemy of our souls? Can they honestly defend these other versions and have the Spirit of Truth??? Does John not smell a rat when seeing that so many verses have been completely removed from these new versions? Where is the discernment that he claims to have?
His article mentions that "conservative Protestants" produced the NASB and the NIV. Obviously, He has NOT done his homework. There is no fear of God, in those translators, to remove verses out of the Bible!!!
See http://www.av1611.org/niv.html for a great article exposing the NIV. Also the Hideous background info on these texts of the NIV can be found at http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6811/background.htm
He also states that there is little difference between the Catholic bibles and the KJV. What he fails to mention is that most Catholic bibles have footnotes for each verse and their own interpretations for each verse, plus the added Apocrypha. They just don't cross reference...they take each verse and comment on it....justifying their dogmas. So the translation may similar according to the Textus Receptus in some places but the words get lost in all the Catholic commentary.
The devil either distracts the reader from truth with Catholic Commentary or twists the Scriptures (as with the NIV,NASB,etc.) and keeps them so focused to read only these distorted versions faithfully each day....it really makes no difference to him...he is producing the same results...all souls not saved still end up in the same place...HELL....not hades (like the NIV says)...but Hell!
I was given the Ankerberg link by a certain (foreign language) Christian bookstore defending their other versions. I emailed them...asking if they carried a Bible according to the Textus Receptus, for my grandmother.
(I had a Bible study with my grandmother one day on Jesus' finished work on the cross and discovered her Bible was missing verses on the blood of Jesus. I cannot buy her KJV because she is from Europe and doesn't read English very well so I emailed this online bookstore.)
I mentioned to them that her bible "is a very poor translation...many Scripture verses are completely omitted and others are watered down."
Steve this was all I wrote to them...I did not even name the translation she owns and they write back defending all the versions they carry in their store and how I should check out Ankerberg's website.....because "very conservative" experts have a lot to say regarding the KJV and other versions. They were completely on the defensive and I wasn't even accusing....that's the strangest part.
Interestingly...there is only One Version in this foreign language according to the Textus Receptus....just like in the English language. Out of so many versions....Only One! I should research this and see if in every language this is the case.
Ankerberg's article is defending the NIV and other translations and putting down Gail Riplinger's book and claiming she is not accurate. I have not read her book but anyone who stands up for the King James Bible should be supported, not criticized. You do NOT have to be a Bible Scholar to see that verses have been completely removed from the other versions.
A while ago, I was on Moriel Ministries Website. They were saying the same things that Ankerberg is saying about Gail Riplinger and the KJV Bible.
Dear Moriel Ministries,
The reason I think that there is such a concern with some of the newer Bible versions is because of the verses that have been omitted. I was shocked years back when I discovered that 1John 5:7 was omitted out of just about every version I had in the house. The versions that are out today seem to water down the Gospel.
Many verses from the Four Gospels have been omitted as well. Why omit these verses? We are not to take away from God's Word. We do not have to be experts to know that if key verses or key phrases have been omitted or watered down, then the scriptures have been tampered with. And by whom??
Know your enemy.
We are to expose the works of darkness. Ever since I've switched to the King James, I have discovered things about the Lord that I never knew before and even prophecy...the mark of the beast will be IN the hand not on the hand as the other versions state...I caught that one night in my devotionals.
Who is the great deceiver? You better believe that any bible that omits verses on the trinity has the enemy's fingerprints all over it.
If you pray, the Lord will reveal to you all truth. Maybe Gail Riplinger is not a renown expert, I don't know, I've never read her books......... but you don't have to be a Bible scholar to see the error in the other versions.
The King James Bible stands forever as a testimony of God's Faithfulness in preserving His Word throughout the centuries!
The devil tries to twist and distort the true Word of God because he knows that the true Word of God is our sword. It is our weapon used to piano help him in this spiritual battle. We cannot piano help the devil unless we have our sword....the true Word of God....the KJV Bible!!!!
Hebr:4:12: For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Ephe:6:17: And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Keep the Faith!!!
Jesus is coming Back Soon!!!
From: "Fred ------------------
Subject: What the KJV did for me
I was an Episcopalian from birth. In 1962 I received a KJV Bible from my Godmother. I started reading it and got saved that same year. By reading the Bible, and knowing it was right, I left the Episcopal Church(mans church) and joined a local New Testament Independent Baptist Church. I do not believe I would have been saved if the Old piano Book was not the "RIGHT" one.
In His service,
Greetings dear brother. Your site is a beacon in the darkness. I wanted to share my experience with you.
I had never used anything but NIV- Women's devotional-since I was saved in 1994. When I met my husband a little over a year ago, we began having arguments a lot over bible doctrine. He was very patient with me, but I was so stubborn (Like an ass!). I refused to believe the NIV was any different form the KJV 1611.
One night while surfing the net, I came across the sight www.jesus-is-lord.com., and boy, what an eye opener! The Holy Spirit convicted me on the spot regarding these vile books masquerading as God's word. Now I realized my views were so distorted. We have now found a KJV only church, and love our brethren dearly.
I still have that messed up book- I use it to show others. And sadly, not one of my Christian friends outside our church has responded favorably. I keep on telling them!
Aside form the blatant omissions and distortions, several things have struck me.
The NIV translators state they used other texts when the TR seemed "doubtful". They also state their version, like ALL versions, is imperfect. That's not what God says! (Psalm 12:6 and 7). And if God, who cannot lie, promised He would PRESERVE His Word from old generations, how do we suddenly have all these wonderful, better, manuscripts? I'm so tired of hearing the original Greek this, and that- God knew we weren't all Greek scholars!
When comparing the Philadelphia church age preceding ours, to our current Laodicean age- how can people really believe this new confusion is a great revival? Astounding! The Philadelphia church was told specifically they were blessed for keeping the WORD of His patience. No coincidence here! No other church message mentions the word as this one does.
God also says he will send a famine in the land in the latter days-of the Word. (Amos 8:11 -13). They will wear themselves out trying to find it! And boy did this Psalm strike me: "But the king shall rejoice in God: every one that sweareth by him shall glory: but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped."-Psalm 63:11
In the NIV- the title page to each chapter also has some interesting, SUBTLE, messages.(Gen. 3:1; 2 Cor.11:3 and 4)-KJV!
Genesis- I should make serving God "a" priority-not "the" priority. Leviticus- I will find it "dull and boring".
God's Bible is full of piano coversnings about the subtilty of satan. He also speaks of the king's wisdom in many places. He also promises to protect those who trust in Him from famine. Coincidence? I think not.
"I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him. Where the WORD of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, what doest thou? Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgement."-Ecc.8:2-5
I apologize for my lengthy letter! Just wanted to say it all! May God continue to bless you richly in your pursuit of serving Him completely!
Love in Christ Jesus always,
Subject: My conversion
I just want to praise the Lord for the King James Bible. I was church hopping back in late 1996 just leaving a 7th Day Adv. when a friend of mine at work had told me that the KJB was a perfect Bible. I was using the NIV, ( nutty idiots version ), and we would have some fun debating the issue. Then she told me that a preacher, now my pastor, was coming to town to take over a church and asked if I would go talk to him.
So I proceeded to go to hear him preach and to debate the issue of the bible. Needless to say it was no debate I lost, realized I was lost, got saved and have been at the church since. Also I have been called to preach and have been preaching at the local nursing home and the homeless missions. I thank God every day for his inspired infallible preserved word. It has changed my life. It is a real privilege to know that no matter where I open my Bible that I am going to see what God has to say and I don't have to worry about whether a certain verse is right or translated correctly. I know that my Bible is pure and perfect.
Thank you for allowing me to give my testimony and God bless you all.
For our God is a consuming fire. Heb. 12:29
Subject: Realization that the AV is the ONLY Bible
Dear Steve, I just wanted you to know what important work you defenders of the the AV are doing. I had believed that all versions were more or less the same, depending on the quality of the scholarship involved. I have studied Greek and textual criticism, and believed that textual criticism was a valid science. I had thought that the textual critics were trying to find the best reading i.e. the one that raised up Christ and His saving work on the Cross. What sparked my interest in exploring the question again ( I have several works which defend the critical school) was of all things an old TV show! I was watching the old western (70's) the Rebel, set right after the Civil piano covers. The hero of the show and his uncle were surrounded and were going to shoot it out in the morning. The uncle, a christian, asked the man, whose house they were trapped in, did they have a Bible, when the man said yes, the uncle asked, ' which version?' King James?
When the man said yes, it was a King James, the uncle took it and began reading. This stunned me. What was it about the AV? Moreover, it was interesting this would even be put in the show since there was,I believe, no other version of the Bible until the 1880's. I then went on line and began looking up KV only sites. I was shocked to say the least. I saw that everytime the critical text 'corrected' the TR it was to weaken the message.
NOT ONE TIME DOES THE CRITICAL TEXT MAKE A CORRECTION THAT MAKES A STRONGER CASE THEN THE TEXTUS RECEPTUS IN UPLIFTING CHRIST AND HIS WORK ON THE CROSS! Moreover, the defense of the AV on the basis of Preservation is totally sound and sensible. The new versions have created a literal babel of confusion. I thank God that He has rescued me from the confusion and error. I now have the Bible, the ONLY Bible, the AV, as my 'sword of the Spirit'
Thank You for the fine work you are doing.
Mr.Edpiano coversd ---------------
From: "Al ---------------------
To: "Balaams Ass" <email@example.com>
Subject: Bible debate
I have become involved in the JKV bible debate in Kelowna B.C Canada, and have written the following article which may be useful to share. Comments would be appreciated as maybe more could be added to the thoughts along this line.
Your journal is much appreciated.
yours in Christ
Ever since man has been on this earth he has had to rely on the resources around him to survive. As men increased upon the earth their support systems enlarged to include areas further and further away from his physical location. This forced him to rely more and more upon things which he did not have complete control of. Today we live in a society built upon generations of men building infrastructures for every conceivable convenience and necessity which we take for granted.
Because of this we accept the end product without question. We are only interested in it's function in the society around us today. The 21st century man is dependent upon the wisdom and expertise of multitudes of men who went before him. The man of today has limitations which restrict him from knowing and understanding how all this came to be. We have put our trust in many things and concepts which we have little or no insight into or control of .
Because of our acceptance of things around us we seldom think about our limitations and blindly accept what works or what seems right. If we consider ourselves we have to realize that we are creatures with limitations, especially in three critical areas of our lives. These three areas of life can be described as the physical, mental and spiritual aspects of man. We should consider these limitations today especially in light of some of the changes we are asked to accept when it comes to mans understanding of God and his Word.
Physically a man is limited in time and space . We only have so much time and we are only capable of being in one place at one time. What went on before our lifetime, and in other places in the universe, even while we are here, we cannot truly know. We can read books, listen to eyewitness accounts or watch events on TV. Still we know that truth can be left out, added to, overemphasized and distorted . Every report comes to us with the personal bias of the reporter. Even when we want to believe the report someone can find some flaw in it.
Not only is the man limited physically, but he is mentally limited. He does not know all the facts, some facts may never be known, some may be deliberately withheld, some may be distorted to get a desired reaction. On top of all that a mans memory may not be accurate, he may have forgotten, even what he did know. Mans ability to reason with the facts available is limited by how much he can think through the limited knowledge he does have available to himself. If all the knowledge knowable and forgotten through time were measurable, the amount one man or a group of men are capable of knowing would be so minuscule, that the comparison would be like a drop of water compared to the ocean.
On top of the physical and mental limitations man is limited spiritually. Man has a sense of "right" and "wrong" a conscience, that seems to suggest limitations on him as to what he "ought " to do and what he "ought not" do. How is man to determine how to behave the way he "ought " to? If our "instincts" told us what to do morally, we would have an absolute to follow. We find, however, that men in different cultures, and sometimes in the same culture, brought up with different moral standards will measure opposing actions as morally "right". Even when men agree to what is "right" men find themselves incapable of always doing what is right. Thus man on his own is limited spiritually and incapable of deciding what is the "right" decision .
How does this apply to the topic of the Bible. In the past 150 years and particularly in the last 40 years man has been told by the "scholars" that new evidence has surfaced about the Bible, casting doubt upon the very words Christians down through the centuries have believed to be the very Words of God. We have been told that because we do not have the "original manuscripts" that God dictated to his servants, what we have is not infallible (without error). As a result when new evidence is discovered "scholars" through research and scientific study determine whether it is closer to the "original manuscript" than what we now use , and on this basis they make changes to the Bible we read.
As a result of this "scholarly research" we have a whole new Greek New Testament text, supposedly more like the one dictated to the original writers. Coming from this new text have been an array of new bible translations trying to give us the words and thoughts of God in a supposedly clearer more meaningful and accurate way. This Greek text has made thoBlipnds of changes which we are told are from "better more ancient" manuscripts.
Today much of the Christian church has discarded the Bibles of their forefathers, especially in the English speaking world where the King James Bible (translated from the majority Greek text) has been the Bible used for almost the last 400 years. On the pretext of updating the English language of the bible, men have changed, removed and altered the words of the Bible. Changing the meaning and message it gives.
The Question we ask is what authority does man have to do this considering his mental, spiritual and physical limitations? As no one has the "original manuscripts" the best man can do is make educated guesses as to what was in them. No man living today has ever read them. God alone knows what they contained. God's own words tell us in Psalm 12:6,7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
To say that God has not preserved his word pure to all generations is to call the character of God into question. The scholars declaration of a "better more ancient" text, declares that from the 4th century until the 19th century , the Church and the world did not have God's pure words. It is therefore saying that God's word has been so preserved that no one had it. Jesus in John 17 tells us that he gave us "God's words" John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
Was God incapable of preserving these words which Jesus gave to us? Were some of these words lost? The "scholars" would have us think that the words are not important, only the thoughts of God. Jesus declared that: ("they have received them [God's Words], and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.") the words of God caused the people to believe.
Limited man, not understanding his limitations, has taken on God and his word adding ,altering and removing what he rationally believes to be errors in the existing Bible. Is God in his sovereignty incapable of preserving the very words he gave to The Lord Jesus Christ for his church to read in every generation? Or do we have enough information, skill, spirituality and wisdom to change what the church for 19 centuries has believed?
Is the God who knows the number of the hairs on your head, as Jesus declared in Mt 10:30 when he said "But the very hairs of your head are all numbered." limited like man? Was He not able to direct the translators of his word into the English language when he knew that for 400 years that bible would be read and preached from, declaring who and how great He was.
Would an omniscient God allow a corrupted Bible to be his sole message to much of the world for 400 years? Is God not all powerful? Maybe God doesn't care what's in our bibles, or are we trying to bring him down to our level and give him the attributes of a man, limited in what he is capable of doing?
We have allowed the so called "bible scholars" to bring God down to man's level, making God into someone that we understand. When will we ever learn as God had Isaiah write: Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Our inability to "let God be God" causes us to try to pull him down to our level and make him compatible with man. We play into the hand of Satan just as Eve did when she listened to the lie" Yea, hath God said," How big is your God?
God's word says in Pr 30:5,6 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Is your God big enough that you can trust Him to give you an unchangeable message. Or have you put your faith in the changeable Bibles of men whose god cannot preserve his message as the true God said he would. Your choice of a Bible influences those around you. Choose wisely or you may find you are using a Bible that has been added to. God does not appreciate nor respect liars, neither should you.
Dear brother Steve this page truly is a blessing. It is really great to see that there is a few real men of God still left who are getting the truth out. seems that most pastors and churches are falling by the wayside. Just recently my wife and I found the beginining of a new church right here in Shelton, Wa. a true bible believing King James only, teaching. Brother Jim Schebetta is the pastor, and it is partly due to your website. Praise be to God , and the Lord Jesus Christ.
In His love, brother Ron York
Subj: King James 7, Zondervan 0
Hi Steve! Figure I'd just report in with another happening here in the great state of Iowa that supports the King James point of view. The local Christian radio station was doing an on the air bible challenge...One of the questions asked was "What was the Old Testament miracle that Pharoah's magicians could not duplicate?" The bible challenge card gave the answer as the "plague of lice" (reference Exodus 8:16-19).
Well the station got a few calls from folks who said "well it's the plague of gnats!" The DJ on duty said that they were wrong, and subsequently apiano coversded the prize to a caller who called in with the answer, "a plague of lice." The DJ later felt bad because after looking it up in her bible, she realized that it said a "plague of gnats."
But, it wasn't just any Bible that the DJ used to cross check the answer -- it was an NIV. You see, this is another example of the NIV being just plain wrong, and it was illustrated quite clearly by believers missing the boat in answering questions correctly. What other questions would someone get wrong reading an NIV? Well you decided. Missing 64,000 words, the NIV can be considered a nearly incomplete version, and really shouldn't be used.
Incidentally, proof comes in Exodus 8:17..."And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt."
I don't know about you, but I certainly have never heard of a grade schooler with a gnat infestation. Case closed, advantage God.
Subj: Brownsville & NIV/KJV
I've got a KJV testimony. I used to think that all english bible translations were equal, and if not, as long as conservative evangelicals made them, they were ok. Boy was I wrong. I'm the only Christian in my family, and about a year ago, my cousin moved into a new house. I figured a nice, new leatherbound bible would be quite the strategic housepiano coversming gift. Idiot that I was, I gave her an NIV.
Later, reading through the text of it, I came upon the infamous "This wasn't in the oldest texts" and "That wasn't in the oldest texts" commentary that marks the end of Mark and the story of casting the first stone in John. I had seen them before, but really hadn't paid much attention. This time however, they stopped me dead in my tracks. What a miserable evangelistic tool the NIV is!
Giving a Bible whose notes undercut the authenticity and accuracy of original Biblical texts to an unbeliever so that they will accept Christ? Puh-leeese! That incident began my research into the NIV and modern lanuguage translations of the Bible. And what I found absolutely shocked me. Men like Moses, Paul, and John wrote his word -- and the Lord is going to use a 20th century American lesbian to translate it? I think not. The space formerely occupied on my shelf by my NIV is now taken up by a King James Bible. And you know what? It's pretty easy to read once you spend a few weeks getting used to the language.
Thank you for your web site! Keep the faith!
BTW, what is the address to send a donation to?
Subj: KJV Testimony
I hope this is a worthy little testimony. I found this web-site about 3 months ago. Until that time I didn't even realize there was a 'contoversy'!
That is how lost I was in "lukepiano coversm" Christianity. I had my fancy NIV study Bible and thought I had all the answers. That is until I stumbled across your web-site. Your bluntness shocked and offended me initially. I realize now, though, that is exactly what I needed! I found out all of my perfect heroes Graham, Van Impe etc. weren't so perfect. I then took your recommendation to read Riplinger's NEW AGE BIBLE VERSIONS. Wow were my eyes opened!
After about one chapter I had already come to the conclusion that it was going to be KJV 1611 for me from now on! I have since purchased a few other good books on the subject and I am learning to defend God's Word against the perverters. I never knew this was such a serious matter. I feel like I need to shout it to the world now. I have already got my parents back to the KJB, from reading the Living Bible. (Praise the Lord!) I feel now that the Holy Ghost led me to your web-site that one afternoon to get a wake up kick in the rear-end, out of my "lukepiano coversm" Christian walk. God bless you Steve and thanks!
Editor: This letter shows that a French speaking citizen of Switzerland has more zeal for the Word of God than James White and all the theologians at Dallas Seminary. GLORY!!!
I just descover the KJV and I find it very interesting I check my bible (Louis SEGON 1910 revised in 1975 by the geneva bible society) for some verses like
Makr 9.44-48 : is good and tell about the worm and the fire with an add comment who say "in the most modern verssions, ther is no mention of that"
Isa 14.12 : It is not good: no mention of Lucifer.
It is clear that my bible is influanced by the bad new versions and it desapointed me.
I can chek if something is missing in my bible when I read the same verses in the KJV but I think that God have better things to do and don't whant to give Old English lessons to all his dear childrens who are not borne in an English speaking country!
My problems is that I'm not a good english reader (not a good writer too) and I belive that it is good to read the Holy Bible in his mother language.
So my question is: What about the french verssions ?
Is that possible to get a translation of the KJV ?
Did you belive that God gave some other good versions in other languages?
I hope you answer this mail (with simple english pleas) and I thank you for your information work on the net.
best regards, God bless.
My wife and I watched some video tapes of sister Riplinger. We didn't just give our other versions away.....WE THREW THEM IN THE GARBAGE.....along with the Benny Hinn's books and other charismatic authors. If we shouldn't read the stuff....neither should anyone else.
I went and bought two nice KJV bibles for our family.
Editor: Balaam's Ass Speaks-- Those Russians are blunt and to the point aren't they :-) I like that.
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I'm just replying to your request to hear KJV only testimonies.
I changed to KJV fairly recently, and it is mostly due to Mark 1:2
After reading this verse in my old NASV I immediatly questioned the authenticity of that translation without ever having checked the verse in the AV or even blip....and why should I? The error in that verse can be seen easily without even comparing it to anything...even the original language...Isaiah never said that, and the Holy Spirit would not make a mistake like that in inspiring those writings!
From there I went online and found all sorts of resources regarding the original greek and blip texts...and the alexandrian manuscripts and the KJV jumped in my face as the best English translation of the TR.
From: Mike & Laura
I was saved in a non-denom church 10 years ago and began using the NIV because that is what the pastor and our friends used. (this was in Alaska). After several years I accidentally noticed that my NIV was MISSING verses. I thought this was very strange and tried doing what research I could in to this. I stumbled across and old, old book someone had given to me ages before I was even saved called "God only wrote one bible" by jasper james ray copyright 1955, eye opener publications. It spoke of the problems with the niv nas rvs, etc. So, I went to a bible book store and was told that the new king james was exactly like the regular king james, only the thees and thous were taken out. I have been using the new king james for 4 years.
Now I have heard from you and texe marrs that even the nkj is tainted and the only right one is the "1611". Please help me! I have four small children and they, as well as me and my husband have been using the NKJV. It is all we can understand. Is the NKJV just as bad as the other versions? Where can I get real info on this? Plus, I dont even think my christian book store sells a 1611 version of the kjv. They looked at me real strange. Can you only get this version in certain places? I will really appreciate your help. We love the Lord with all our heart, soul and mind. We want his REAL word. Not man's version. Thanks!
WE NEED AN ANSWER FOR THE FOLLOWING LETTER. S, Steve Van Nattan, am not sure who the "condeited brethren" were in the Epistle from the translators in the Front of the KJV 1611. Please send an answer to me or to James. His letter follows...
I was visiting a friend last night. We are firm believers (he currently attends a Nazarene church, where his twin brother's wife's father is the pastor, and I attend a spirit-filled Messianic congregation). He was given his late grandmother's KJV as an heirloom, and very well-worn it is! I was reading, not from the sacred Text Itself, but actually from the letter at the beginning, a greeting from the translators to King James. About 3/4 way through their prologue, there is mention of "conceited Brethren". Does this refer to the Plymouth Brethren? I have an interest in studying exactly how certain groups have come to interpret the Bible the way they do. I have discovered that the Plymouth Brethren are credited/blamed (however you look at it) for the popularization of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine, and more importantly, Dispensationalism. These doctrines are very dear and foundational to almost anyone who is willing to call himself an "Independent" Baptist. It would seem that the KJV 1611 translation committee is knocking the very people that most wholeheartedly defend their work. Am I missing something?
By the way, I am not allowed to download anything here at work, even during break/lunch, so I couldn't partake of some of the offerings on your web-page....
Finally, here are some license plates that might appeal to those of you especially "called" to the defense of the KJV:
Some States do not grant requests for license plates in a format that resembles the "random" plates (ie. AV1611 would possibly be a WA "truck" plate generated randomly).
Here is a great blessing from the United Kingdom:
Subj: Testimony of my Wife
From: Billy_Foley@msn.com (William Foley)
Sunday, January 26, 1997, London, England
Hi again Steve. My wife has a great deal to say against the NIV. Elizabeth used it for approximately 10 years after being raised on the KJV. Prior to her conversion three years ago she had started to read the KJV again. This was with no knowledge of the seriousness of errors of the other English bible versions. She is absolutely convinced that the KJV contains the true Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, unlike the other versions, which seem to dilute and omit verses of Scripture from the Word of God. After searching for many years she had a godly conviction of sin which was a total shock to her, and resulted in a godly repentance. It is interesting that when she was converted to Christ the preacher uses only the KJV.
It was a year after her conversion, when hearing a tape of Gale Griplinger being interviewed on a Christian Radio program that the Holy Spirit enlightened her understanding to the absolute necessity of reading, memorizing and studying the KJV.
Subj: King James Bible
From: Jim B
About 4 mounths ago our local body began a new Bible study. I am in the adult mens group, and up until that time we had been studying our church doctrine from Scripture. I was apiano coverse that some of the men of our group were using the NIV but, to be honest, I was not apiano coverse of the differences at that time. In any case at that time we started using a study guide from the Assembly of God church and when we got started I started noticing some major differences between the NIV and the King James ( case and point the diety of Jesus ), so I started investigating the NIV and what I found compleatly shocked me.
I found out that the NIV differed from the King James on several different points ( check out 1 Tim 3:16 the King James says "God was manifest," the NIV says "He was," ). Also check out Philippians 2:6 and 1 John 5:7-- They are not even in the NIV. Also where the King James uses "worshipped "for Jesus the NIV uses words like "knelt" which, although might have been an acceptable word to use 300 years ago when to kneel ment a form of worship, it does not today. Thus the NIV takes away the Lord's worship, the word is the Greek word "Proskuneo" (pros-koo-neh-o )( strongs # 4352 ) derived from a word meaning to kiss like a dog licking his masters hand, Kneeling or prostration to do homage or to make obeisance, express respect, or make supplication. "KNELT" IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS WORD.
Also, the NIV is owned by the International Bible Society which has sold EXCLUSIVE publishing rights to Zondervan publishers which is owned by Harper Collens Publishers which publishes good holesome books like "THE LESBIAN AND GAY PARENTING HANDBOOK" and "THE MALE COUPLE'S GUIDE" and "GAY SOUL," I can't believe that God would permit his Word to be involved in this kind of perversion.
Since finding this out I have revealed it to some of the men of our study group with mixed results, but most exciting was our pastor's responce, which was just short of condeming the NIV. Please pray for me as I am not finished with this yet.
Yours in the Lord Jesus Christ
This letter is mostly a "go get'em" note from a fundamentalist in Alabama who happened to stumble across your page. I haven't read much of it yet but I can "AMEN" what I have read. You said on your KJV page you wanted letters from New Incorrect Version converts.
Well, I never had an NIV but I was once given a NKJV so I, in my ingnorance, said "Well it really says the same thing"
I had always heard preaching for the KJV (the Bible...capital B) but I never let it sink in. A couple of years ago I got a tape of Gail Riplinger speaking at (I think) Gospel Light Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. What I heard on that tape shocked me... Enough that I sought out and bought her book "New Age Versions".
It only takes few minutes of attention to see the false gospel of the new versions. To wind up my rambling, I switched from a Laodicean-like view of "Well... KJV is best but the others are OK" to a blipastic "KJV ONLY... The rest teach damnation." Pray for me, I just became the Adult Class SS teacher in my church. I'm in agreement with my pastor on this (Thank the Lord) but we have some new folks in the church that still read there NIV at home "cause its easier to read" (I know, Hogwash!) Every quarter now I devote one SS class to the KJV ONLY lesson. It will be due again soon and unless you write me back and forbid it I'll probably add some stuff from your page to my lesson material.
Sorry for the rambling,
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